BOOM!!!

David Nather notes Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama met today on the Senate floor "and the two exchanged one of those half-hug, half arm-clasp greetings."

"A more intriguing development was the series of intense, one-on-one conversations Obama and Clinton had with both of the Michigan senators - Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow - who are anxiously awaiting word on whether the Michigan delegation will be seated at the Democratic national convention in August... Both senators also spent time talking to Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida, whose state's role in the convention is also up in the air."

But the "chilliest conversation of the day" was between Clinton and Sen. Ted Kennedy who recently said an Obama-Clinton wasn't possible because Clinton isn't in tune with the "nobler aspirations" of the American people.

"Kennedy did most of the talking. Clinton mostly stood there, looking stern and a bit hurt."

Looks like the liberal lion is taking HRC to task for the way she has conducted herself. And hopefully she gets the hint realizes she needs to run a respectable campain from her on in.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/0 5/13/clinton_obama_meet_in_the_senate.ht ml

Earlier today

"If we were under the Republican system, which is more like the Electoral College, she'd have a 300-delegate lead here," he said. "I mean, Senator McCain is already the nominee because they chose a system to produce that result, and we don't have a nominee here, because the Democrats chose a system that prevents that result."

Well i feel all i got to say about this is that Hillary can feel free to run as a republican next time around...

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail /2008/04/21/bill_clinton_defends_hillary s.html#more

More of this please,
With HRC's campaign falling apart, with their lame kitchen sink strategy failing the Obama Camp has gone on the offensive. Their starting to smell blood and are getting ready to take her out.

As many of you know Penn has been removed as chief strategist however he is still on the campaign, when asked why Howard Wolfson responded with the following.

"I appreciate the question, but I'm not going to answer it," and added "The difference would be between the editor-in-chief of your newspaper and somebody who plays an important role in your newspaper but isn't in charge," he said, adding that it was the difference "between somebody who is playing the key role and somebody who is playing an important role."

The Obama camp called Bull Shit with this

"Even though Senator Clinton said she'd distance herself from her chief strategist for meeting with the Colombian government, we later found out that he's still very much part of her strategy team. The comparison Senator Clinton tried to make today is laughable, but also typical of a candidate who has said one thing but done another this entire campaign."

BOOM! more of this, its time to end this thing and its nice to see team Obama saddling up for a fight!

Link : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/mark-penns-clinton-camp-r_n_95656.html

WTF?
I'm a Obama supporter however I am also on Hillary's mailing list and today I find out she "rented" the mailing list to InfoUSA? There been stories of people getting the snot spammed out of them for this. I have a hard time imagining that any campain would do this bit it looks to be the case.

Last year, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton took the unusual step of renting out some of her lists. The transaction once again highlights the Clintons' connections to a businessman who now faces questions from the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Reports from Clinton's campaign show that on Dec. 3, it collected payment for renting out three mailing lists, the sale of which netted them $8,225.

It's stuff like this that makes me really resent Hillary and believe me if Obama did stuff like this my support for him would be in question also. I dunno how do you Hillary supports feel about this?

Heres the link
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story .php?storyId=18958566

I posted this in a comment but this is something I've been wondering for a while and hopefully you guys can shed some light on this. Assuming Clinton wins PA 10+ and Obama wins NC 10+ what is Clintons path to the nomination? Is it simply to woo the super delegates?

Once PA and NC are over there are only 293 pledged delegates remaining. Even if Clinton won 65% of the vote Obama would still be ahead 69 delegates. And shes not going to get 65% of the vote.

So whats the game plan? How do you guys think shes going to pull this off?

I used slates delegate counter to come up with this so my numbers might be a bit off

http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/

Another thing I'm trying to figure out is when is this over? Once she's mathematically illuminated? If She loses PA? or is the plan to go to the convention regardless of where she is in the delegate count?

Echoing Markos's assessment on Jerome abusrd concultion that and Obama victory will rip the democratic party apart I've cut and pasted a recent post from Booman, the link is as follows
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/ 3/24/143656/211

So it looks like Hillary wasn't being so honest when she said she never really supported NAFTA. Heres an outtake of whats on political wire

This from the AP: "She was also involved in helping her husband win congressional approval of the North American Free Trade Agreement, a deal she now criticizes and says she would try to change."

No wonder why she waited until after Ohio to release these documents. Just reinforces my feeling that shes a lying, SOB. She went after Obama when he's been consistent on the issue even before he got into the senate. And for those of you who choose not to remember the call to Canadian embassy was from the Clinton camp, not the Obama Camp.

Update : Forgot to post the link so here it is http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/5633274.html

Ok so I'm an Obama supporter but I don't see how Clinton can win the nomination without the help of super delegates,  my logic below. I have Hillary winning every single except Vermont contest and many by margins of up to 16%. Let me make clear that I don't think that theres a snowballs chance in hell Hillary will win all these contests let alone with these margins I gave her however I'm offering up her best case scenario. The Delegate counts appear to the right of the percentages.

State               Clinton   Obama
Ohio                53%(75)   47%(66)
Rhode Island        58%(12)   42%(9)
Texas               54%(100)  46%(93)
Vermont             44%(7)    56%(8)
Wyoming             58%(7)    42%(5)
Mississippi         58%(19)   42%(14)  
Pennsylvania        58%(92)   42%(66)
Guam                58%(2)    42%(2)
Indiana             58%(42)   42%(30)
North Carolina      51%(59)   42%(56)
West Virginia       58%(16)   42%(12)
Kentucky            58%(30)   42%(21)
Oregon              58%(30)   42%(22)
Montana             58%(9)    42%(7)
South Dakota        58%(9)    42%(6)
Puerto Rico         58%(32)   42%(23)

Even after adding ALL of these numbers for her she still trails Badly in the delegate count to Obama the numbers come out to...
1,632 for Obama and 1,577 (51%-49%) for Clinton assuming you believe the current delegate count is 1,192 Obama and 1,036 for Clinton. Even if she wins Vermont she only picks up 1 more delegate. Looking at the numbers the ONLY way Hillary can win is to overrule the pledged delegate count by convincing the super delegates to side with her.

So to recap given Hillary's best case scenario she still comes up short 59 delegates to Obama. All Obama needs to do is keep it close as he has done in almost every single contest. To date Hillary has only been able to win a state by 16% or more 3 times. I find it highly unlikely she'll be able to do this for the 90% of the remaining states...