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Nice hatchet job and way to spin a person's words. (2.00 / 1)

This is a prime example of how destructive the Obama supporters have become: they work tirelessly to twist and spin any statement made by either Clinton as some nefarious comment made to show them as 'not Democrats'.  Meanwhile, Obama can praise Reagan and Bush 1 while denigrating the economic success of the Clinton years without so much as a yawn from his own supporters.  He can praise past GOP administrations as the 'party of ideas' and denigrate the Clintons and receive yelps of praise from his followers.

You all know exactly what Bill said, and why he said it.  You know it's absolutely true, as well, that if the Democratic party had the same rules of the GOP party right now, Obama would have been beaten by Hillary.  That's what's made ya'll mad enough to keep on demeaning the only two term Democratic POTUS in half a century.

Keep it up, you'll loose some Democrats, and face it, McCain is gathering the unhappy GOP folks back to the fold.  You're only making a GE harder for your candidate should he succeed in gaming the nomination.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 08:43:34 PM EST

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Oh, please save your spin for the sniper fire. We are sick and tired of the whining coming from this campaign.  Why wasn't Bill whining when the same system won him in 92 or 96?  Why wasn't he making this a big deal when she was presumed to be the nominee in the beginning of this race?  This is primarily why your candidate is losing, they have no grace or respect for a fellow candidate and people are seeing right through them.  Her negatives are the highest since 2001 and they will continue to go up because the same tactics used against them by the republicans they are using towards a fellow democrat.  This is a despicable campaign and the results show it.


She and McCain are very close - Bill Clinton
by clintonmccain on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 08:50:29 PM EST
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You know, the first thing they teach you as a history student is to never engage in theorizing about alternative history.  Every single candidate would have used a different strategy had the rules been different.  That argument makes no sense.


by rfahey22 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 09:22:59 PM EST
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Apples to oranges. Or rather, you trying to turn this on it's head by saying that Clinton isn't saying anything wrong while Obama is (what Obama said wasn't praising Reagan, sorry).

What he said is true...if we were running by the Republican rules, Hillary would be ahead (though by the math I read, it'd be about 150 delegate lead or so, not quite 300 or so, what Bill said). But so what? We're not running the primary with the Republican rules. We're running Democratic rules, which however you may feel about them, are different.

What's the purpose of even bringing this up? The only thing I can think of is a possible insinuation that we should change the rules of the primary mid-game, and if that's the intent, he damn well deserves to catch heat over that.

Just because he was a two-term president doesn't mean he's totally infallible.


by Jaffee on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 09:40:19 PM EST
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Emspater -

I don't think anybody is denying what Bill said may not be true. However, bringing it up sounds a bit, how shall I'll put this - a bit "bitter." You have to admit this is like Yankees saying in 2004 hey if
the playoffs were only three games we would have won. Ok you think the Democratic Primary system is convoluted, fine, but it's the system they all agreed to campaign.

Senator Clinton has been out campaigned, Bill should suck it and get over it.

And as someone mentioned in an earlier post he was happy with it when he was running.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 10:01:51 PM EST
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