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I've seen this movie before. (2.00 / 1)

Hillary's strategy of boasting that she would poach Obama's pledged delegates has turned out to be real bonehead move considering that she now can't complain about him poaching hers.

It's like in the Austin Power movies where Doctor Evil is compelled to smugly reveal his insidious plan only to have it turned against him.


by Nomo Clintons on Sun May 18, 2008 at 04:03:10 AM EST

Well.... (none / 0)

this won't end well.


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by Lord Hadrian on Sun May 18, 2008 at 04:04:42 AM EST
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And it's certain that (none / 0)

the sequel will be even tawdrier.


by Nomo Clintons on Sun May 18, 2008 at 04:10:22 AM EST
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'strategy' boasting'?? she said the basic fact that pledged is not what people were claiming and that they could be switched before denver. and what f'ing hypocrisy on the part of all the obama supporters who railed for months that she was deviously trying to steal the election! who's doing that now?

and the issue of delegates representing the voice of the people - what tripe. don't want to hear that yap out of obama supporters anymore - Hillary WON NV yet low and behold Obama 'stole' more delegates. Hmmmm....

If hillary can pull off the nomination by any means --- it's clearly fair and square now given the Obama strategy.


by swissffun on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:12:16 AM EST
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Swissfun -- the first thing you need to realize is that Obama supporters are composed of many people with different ideas.

The second thing you need to realize is that many Obama supporters, including me, objected to pledged delegates switching their votes. I argued that even though Clinton is a deceitful liar with no respect for the process or the will of the people, the delegates shouldn't fall to her level.

The third thing you need to understand is that Obama doesn't need these pledged delegates "switches". Hillary does.

So, complaining about two pledged delegates switching -- when Obama already has a 200 delegates lead? Get over yourself.

Obama doesn't need to either count or not count Michigan, he doesn't need to either count or not count the superdelegates, he doesn't need these few pledged delegates to switch or not switch.

This race isn't even a close one anymore. It's over. Get over it.


by Aris Katsaris on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:10:58 AM EST
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"she said the basic fact that pledged is not what people were claiming and that they could be switched before denver"

And Hillary is now on the short end of it without the ability to utter a peep of protest. People can decide for themselves if it was a smart thing to do.


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by Freespeechzone on Sun May 18, 2008 at 12:02:02 PM EST
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You fail to see the irony (none / 0)

Hillary tells everyone she's going to poach Obama's delegates only to have it done to her.

How sweet it is!


by Nomo Clintons on Tue May 20, 2008 at 03:15:04 AM EST
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Definitely.  There's a similar problem in the Clinton campaign's well-documented habit of saying that this is a race to 2025 delegates.  It's like the Clinton campaign still hasn't figured out this Internet-Youtube thing, so they spin whatever seems best on a given day without thought about how it might come back to bite them.

Is it really so hard?  I mean, back in February, as Obama was racking up victories, did it not occur to them that they might want to start demagoguing 24/7 about FL and MI, and that perhaps they shouldn't etch such a deep line in the sand about 2025 delegates?


by deminva on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:17:42 AM EST
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The Clinton campaign doesn't seem to have planned anything more than a week ahead and can't seem to remember anything they did more than a week ago.


by Nomo Clintons on Tue May 20, 2008 at 03:17:44 AM EST
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