BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back

by anujtron, Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:27:11 PM EST

More of this please,
With HRC's campaign falling apart, with their lame kitchen sink strategy failing the Obama Camp has gone on the offensive. Their starting to smell blood and are getting ready to take her out.

As many of you know Penn has been removed as chief strategist however he is still on the campaign, when asked why Howard Wolfson responded with the following.

"I appreciate the question, but I'm not going to answer it," and added "The difference would be between the editor-in-chief of your newspaper and somebody who plays an important role in your newspaper but isn't in charge," he said, adding that it was the difference "between somebody who is playing the key role and somebody who is playing an important role."

The Obama camp called Bull Shit with this

"Even though Senator Clinton said she'd distance herself from her chief strategist for meeting with the Colombian government, we later found out that he's still very much part of her strategy team. The comparison Senator Clinton tried to make today is laughable, but also typical of a candidate who has said one thing but done another this entire campaign."

BOOM! more of this, its time to end this thing and its nice to see team Obama saddling up for a fight!

Link : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/mark-penns-clinton-camp-r_n_95656.html




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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

Can someone tell me how one does a block quote on MyDD?


by anujtron on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:27:58 PM EST

Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

<b1ockquote> text text </b1ockquote>

replaces the 1's with L's.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:29:14 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 2)

Thanks!


by anujtron on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:32:17 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

is the assist editor in chief considered a key role or important role?


Congratulations to Barack Obama, the presumptive Presumptive Democratic Nominee
by TruthMatters on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:30:29 PM EST

Axelrod.. the guy who created the Dean/Osama (1.33 / 3)

adds in IA is supposed to impress me with his moral compass about who should and should not be advising Clinton?  I don't think so.


DON'T COUNT THE VOTES, DON'T COUNT THE VOTES.... Obama and the Obamaettes... spring 2008
by TeresaINPennsylvania on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:30:53 PM EST

Re: Axelrod.. the guy who created the Dean/Osama (2.00 / 1)

Quite the little troll aren't we? Personal attacks on Obama supporters, transposing Obama with Osama, what will you think of next?


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by Obama Independent on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:33:27 PM EST
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Re: Axelrod.. the guy who created the Dean/Osama (2.00 / 1)

Actually, the comment was related to the attack ad against Howard Dean that morphed his face into Osama Bin Laden's...

I don't know if Axelrod did that one or not.


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:42:22 PM EST
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Nah, it wasn't Axelrod. (2.00 / 2)

It was a 527 associated with Gephardt and Kerry, I think. Though a guy on Obama's current staff was linked to the ad (may have been Plouffe).


by Bob Johnson on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:45:03 PM EST
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Re: Nah, it wasn't Axelrod. (2.00 / 2)

According to Democratic Underground, it was Robert Gibbs...  have not heard of him to be honest, but definitely isn't Axelrod.


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:50:31 PM EST
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Right. Gibbs. (2.00 / 2)

Not Plouffe.

And not Axelrod, as Teresa claimed.


by Bob Johnson on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:52:14 PM EST
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Re: Axelrod.. the guy who created the Dean/Osama (2.00 / 1)

I don't think there was any transposing here.  The commenter is suggesting that Axelrod was involved in creating attack ads on Howard Dean that somehow brought up the topic of Osama Bin Laden back in 2004 when Axelrod worked on the John Edwards campaign.  I have no idea if that is true or not, but it doesn't appear to be a trollish attack.
Mark
by markjay on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:42:26 PM EST
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No, it's not true. (2.00 / 2)

The ad in question was done by a 527 with ties to Gephardt and Kerry. I think (though I could be mistaken) that there is someone on Obama's staff who was linked to that ad, but it was not Axelrod.


by Bob Johnson on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:44:02 PM EST
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Re: No, it's not true. (2.00 / 2)

agreed...  I was curious so I am looking through things...  it was a 527 that created the ad.  There are names listed but Axelrod's is not among them.


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:45:53 PM EST
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No, I believe Teresa is referrring to the `04 ad (2.00 / 2)

... that morphed Dean into Osama that was done by a shadowy, Dem-funded 527.

While Axelrod had zero to do with that ad (as the poster claims), there is someone on Obama's staff who was connected to that ad. May have been David Plouffe? Not sure.


by Bob Johnson on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:42:49 PM EST
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Re: Axelrod.. the guy who created the Dean/Osama (2.00 / 2)

Then I apologize to Teresa, thanks for setting me straight everyone.


Proudly joining the legions of people and states that don't matter on May 20th.
by Obama Independent on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:50:51 PM EST
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Re: Axelrod.. the guy who created the Dean/Osama (2.00 / 2)

I'm hoping that you're referring to a specific ad that had both Howard Dean and Osama bin Laden in it, and not calling Obama "Osama."

Otherwise, you're going to have a tough time explaining how on YOUR keyboard, the "B" and "S" keys are really very close to each other.


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by freedom78 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:40:25 PM EST
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Re: Axelrod.. the guy who created the Dean/Osama (2.00 / 2)

Robert Gibbs was behind that, not Axelrod.


by labor nrrd on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:49:27 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (none / 0)

With HRC's campaign falling apart, with there lame kitchen sink strategy failing the Obama Camp has gone on the offensive. There starting to smell blood and getting ready to take her out.

I think what you meant was,

"With HRC's campaign falling apart, with their lame kitchen sink strategy failing, the Obama Camp has gone on the offensive. They're starting to smell blood and are getting ready to take her out."

I'm too lazy to correct the rest of your post. Did you fail your 5th grade English class?


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by sricki on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:35:44 PM EST

Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

Let's not resort to fighting over grammar and spelling.

God...if this site goes down THAT road for the next few weeks...


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by freedom78 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:37:32 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 3)

Heh, actually, it would be better than fighting over Wright and Bosnia.


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by sricki on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:38:54 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

Perhaps.  

But if every thread turns into Spellcheck...

THE HORROR!


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by freedom78 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:42:05 PM EST
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Nobody expects the Spellcheck Inquisition! (none / 0)

cue ominous music


John McCain, John McCain
by Elsinora on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 04:02:48 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

yes, it was poor grammar, but when you ONLY attack the grammar, it suggests you can't comment on his point.

but really any HRC supporters want to defend Hillary  and her keeping Penn? anyone want to tell us how this is an example of her great leadership?

Boy, I hope those Unions, or Anti-trade people in PA all work at newspapers so they can understand the difference between a "Key" role and an "Important" role, especially when its after someone is "fired" or "resigns" or was it "steps down".


Congratulations to Barack Obama, the presumptive Presumptive Democratic Nominee
by TruthMatters on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:39:28 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

As I've said before, I think Hillary should have dumped Penn on day one. Keeping him has been a mistake. I don't agree with everything she does, but I hardly think this disqualifies her to be president.


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by sricki on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:43:30 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (none / 0)

Actually...  You may have blundered into t trip-wire there.  I can't think of anything besides the AUMF vote which disqualifies her more.


by Shaun Appleby on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 04:42:34 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (none / 0)

I still believe she (along with many other Democrats) was misled by a corrupt administration. It would be much more difficult to mislead her if she were in charge. And again, if you've read or heard her speech, you'll see that she didn't intend it to be a vote for preemptive war.

However, she should admit it was a mistake and apologize.


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by sricki on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 05:12:31 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (none / 0)

Well, we respectfully agree on your last point.  My assessment of her vote, at the time, was that like many Democrats she was hesitant to oppose a successful 'shock and awe' campaign that was popular in the electorate.  Thing is it didn't turn out that way.  We ran a nominee in 2004 who voted for the AUMF, why would we do that again?  The distinction between Obama and McCain on this issue is clear, that between Clinton and McCain less so in spite of her positioning and revisionism since.

My major objection to US foreign policy for a long time has been that it has been subsumed to domestic political calculation, while seemingly inevitable this must cease.  We need leaders, not poll-driven micro-trenders.  This is the major reason I was attracted to Obama's candidacy and nothing he has done has diminished my loyalty, I think he gets it and is actively asking us to do likewise.

As for Hillary, parse her statements as you like I watched the whole sad imbroglio with great interest as I was vehemently opposed to the war with good reason at the time and she was my junior senator.  I was profoundly disappointed in her choice then and her posturing on the subject since has done nothing to increase my respect or confidence in her position.  The Kyl/Lieberman vote, for example, demonstrated that she had not learned the lesson of that unfortunate war.


by Shaun Appleby on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:14:43 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

Thanks for the corrections


by anujtron on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:40:17 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 2)

Sure. I know it seems petty to point out small errors, but I assure you, it's best to make sure one's diaries are (largely) grammatically correct. Those little errors distract people from the arguments you're trying to make, which is unfortunate. It shouldn't matter, but it's difficult for some people to ignore. It's easier to focus on the content of what you're saying when there are few distractions.


Support forced pregnancy? Vote John McCain 2008!
by sricki on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:49:35 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (none / 0)

Do I sense a Grammargate diary in the near future?  Hahaha


Who puts gum on a roof?!
by thatpurplestuff on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 05:12:05 PM EST
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BOOM! (none / 0)

Big freakin deal! Obama has better things to worry about...like "stuff" for example :D


by soyousay on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:36:04 PM EST

Check out this more expansive (none / 0)

plan of attack as outlined at Politico

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/040 8/9436.html


Anybody got any mixers? - Zaphod Beeblebrox.
by UrbanRedneck on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:47:04 PM EST

Re: Check out this more expansive (none / 0)

I would have to say that makes allot of sense, simply put how can HRC run the country if she cant run her campaign!
Hell of a job Penn-y!
by anujtron on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:50:04 PM EST
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Re: Check out this more expansive (none / 0)

This particular line is bullshit. Everyone in the campaign world knows former Senator/Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle is really running the Obama campaign - he brought in all the same consultants who used to work for him.

So fine, it's a well-run campaign. Let's all applaud Daschle for his fine work, and stop pretending it means Obama is a great executive. It doesn't.


by Susie from Philly on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 04:43:49 PM EST
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Re: Check out this more expansive (none / 0)

Or applaud Obama for his Judgment to bring on people who know what there doing. I expect he would do the same with his cabinet positions.


by anujtron on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 04:57:25 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

I like this diary because it so deftly uses both the terms 'team Obama' and 'bull shit', and all the other words are just filler.

So, some of us read this as 'team Obama, bull shit ... BOOM'.

Thanks so much!


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:49:02 PM EST

Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 1)

Is that why your voting for Clinton? Is it your inability to read without skipping over words? BOOM!


by anujtron on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:51:56 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (none / 0)

Folks who actually pay attention to policy and substance have a tendency to have their eyes 'glaze over' and become sleepy when they see words like 'kitchen sink strategy' applied to a woman and words like 'saddlin up for a fight' when applied to a man.

Add to that a link to 'huffpo', something that conjures up not a vision of a red haired Gabor sister but a vision of Barbara Olsen with a Gaboresque accent, and well, yep, the rest was filler.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 04:05:34 PM EST
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Huh. (2.00 / 1)

I've seen the term "kitchen sink strategy" applied more often to men than to women, personally, and Clinton herself told Obama that "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

As for "saddling up for a fight," the person I've seen that applied to most frequently recently happens to be Sen.  Clinton, so I'm not sure how great an example of misogyny that is.


John McCain, John McCain
by Elsinora on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 04:45:49 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 2)

Some of you read it that way, huh...?

I don't know that I would be crowing about that given there were a lot of other words in the diary.

Oh, but you didn't read it...  that's right!


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:53:20 PM EST
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Is THIS a negative attack? (2.00 / 2)

By the Obama camp?  Not saying they shouldn't say it, but I wonder sometimes if the definition of "negative" is applied equitably.


by Southern Mouth on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 03:49:38 PM EST

Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 2)

I thought Obama new-kind of politics didn't believe in negative attacks..."I will never do that," he said.

hmph.


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 04:12:05 PM EST

Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (2.00 / 4)

I find posts like this offensive and baiting... Plain and simple. First we have KathyM's ridiculous antagonizing post today and now this---smell blood, move in for the kill,time to take her out For cryin out loud this is a primary race not Gladiators ripping or be ripped with the lions. Can we just cut this offensive crap out already??? Christ this place sounds more and more like a HIT Squad ready to fire a million bullets into the air for a successful coup de etat government overthrow. Where the hell were all you people when Bush & Co were destroying America???


Take it to the Convention! Hillary '08"
by JHL on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 04:21:43 PM EST

I must agree the campaigns... (2.00 / 1)

shouldn't be Gladiators and Lions.  But wouldn't it be kind of cool if Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama had a match like Kirk and Spock in the Star Trek episode "Amok Time"?  Well maybe not, but how about the Democratic Nominee against John McCain?
Sorry I guess I just had a Star Trek Geek moment there.
by tonedevil on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 05:16:58 PM EST
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Re: I must agree the campaigns... (2.00 / 1)

LOL! Thanks. I needed that moment of brevity!


Take it to the Convention! Hillary '08"
by JHL on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 05:30:19 PM EST
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Re: BOOM! Team Obama Fights Back (none / 0)

Nice idea for a diary, but I would clean up the language before Rec'ing it.


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NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
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