I was just over at Daily Kos commenting on some random posts; once I was done there I navigated to MyDD. I was about to recommend a diary that was on the Rec's list and then I stopped myself. For a second I felt a little nervous about rec'ing a Pro Obama / Anti Hillary diary in fear of having my ability to rec/rate taken away. I rec'd it anyways but realized how odd it was, I've been coming to both Kos and MyDD since the 2004 election and not once did I ever feel this way.

It's kind of sad how in many ways this site has become Orwellian in nature. I understand the need to exert some amount of control of the site but I feel its gone to far. When you have 50 people troll rate a comment and then THEY get there privileges taken away, while doing nothing to address the party that was troll rated you've got to start asking yourself what's really going on here? I though this was a community effort? Yet when the community troll rates a comment the moderator agrees with they have there rate/rec privileges taken away? Why the over kill? Why not just unhide the comment? Why come down with a hammer on the community?

I'm not gonna make any declaration saying that I'm gonna leave the site cause I'm not going to. I feel the front page posters on this site are some of the best, I just hope this nonsense ends once the primaries are over...

BOOM!!!

David Nather notes Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama met today on the Senate floor "and the two exchanged one of those half-hug, half arm-clasp greetings."

"A more intriguing development was the series of intense, one-on-one conversations Obama and Clinton had with both of the Michigan senators - Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow - who are anxiously awaiting word on whether the Michigan delegation will be seated at the Democratic national convention in August... Both senators also spent time talking to Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida, whose state's role in the convention is also up in the air."

But the "chilliest conversation of the day" was between Clinton and Sen. Ted Kennedy who recently said an Obama-Clinton wasn't possible because Clinton isn't in tune with the "nobler aspirations" of the American people.

"Kennedy did most of the talking. Clinton mostly stood there, looking stern and a bit hurt."

Looks like the liberal lion is taking HRC to task for the way she has conducted herself. And hopefully she gets the hint realizes she needs to run a respectable campain from her on in.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/0 5/13/clinton_obama_meet_in_the_senate.ht ml

Earlier today

"If we were under the Republican system, which is more like the Electoral College, she'd have a 300-delegate lead here," he said. "I mean, Senator McCain is already the nominee because they chose a system to produce that result, and we don't have a nominee here, because the Democrats chose a system that prevents that result."

Well i feel all i got to say about this is that Hillary can feel free to run as a republican next time around...

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail /2008/04/21/bill_clinton_defends_hillary s.html#more

More of this please,
With HRC's campaign falling apart, with their lame kitchen sink strategy failing the Obama Camp has gone on the offensive. Their starting to smell blood and are getting ready to take her out.

As many of you know Penn has been removed as chief strategist however he is still on the campaign, when asked why Howard Wolfson responded with the following.

"I appreciate the question, but I'm not going to answer it," and added "The difference would be between the editor-in-chief of your newspaper and somebody who plays an important role in your newspaper but isn't in charge," he said, adding that it was the difference "between somebody who is playing the key role and somebody who is playing an important role."

The Obama camp called Bull Shit with this

"Even though Senator Clinton said she'd distance herself from her chief strategist for meeting with the Colombian government, we later found out that he's still very much part of her strategy team. The comparison Senator Clinton tried to make today is laughable, but also typical of a candidate who has said one thing but done another this entire campaign."

BOOM! more of this, its time to end this thing and its nice to see team Obama saddling up for a fight!

Link : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/mark-penns-clinton-camp-r_n_95656.html

WTF?
I'm a Obama supporter however I am also on Hillary's mailing list and today I find out she "rented" the mailing list to InfoUSA? There been stories of people getting the snot spammed out of them for this. I have a hard time imagining that any campain would do this bit it looks to be the case.

Last year, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton took the unusual step of renting out some of her lists. The transaction once again highlights the Clintons' connections to a businessman who now faces questions from the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Reports from Clinton's campaign show that on Dec. 3, it collected payment for renting out three mailing lists, the sale of which netted them $8,225.

It's stuff like this that makes me really resent Hillary and believe me if Obama did stuff like this my support for him would be in question also. I dunno how do you Hillary supports feel about this?

Heres the link
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story .php?storyId=18958566

I posted this in a comment but this is something I've been wondering for a while and hopefully you guys can shed some light on this. Assuming Clinton wins PA 10+ and Obama wins NC 10+ what is Clintons path to the nomination? Is it simply to woo the super delegates?

Once PA and NC are over there are only 293 pledged delegates remaining. Even if Clinton won 65% of the vote Obama would still be ahead 69 delegates. And shes not going to get 65% of the vote.

So whats the game plan? How do you guys think shes going to pull this off?

I used slates delegate counter to come up with this so my numbers might be a bit off

http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/

Another thing I'm trying to figure out is when is this over? Once she's mathematically illuminated? If She loses PA? or is the plan to go to the convention regardless of where she is in the delegate count?

Echoing Markos's assessment on Jerome abusrd concultion that and Obama victory will rip the democratic party apart I've cut and pasted a recent post from Booman, the link is as follows
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/ 3/24/143656/211

So it looks like Hillary wasn't being so honest when she said she never really supported NAFTA. Heres an outtake of whats on political wire

This from the AP: "She was also involved in helping her husband win congressional approval of the North American Free Trade Agreement, a deal she now criticizes and says she would try to change."

No wonder why she waited until after Ohio to release these documents. Just reinforces my feeling that shes a lying, SOB. She went after Obama when he's been consistent on the issue even before he got into the senate. And for those of you who choose not to remember the call to Canadian embassy was from the Clinton camp, not the Obama Camp.

Update : Forgot to post the link so here it is http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/5633274.html